This is episode 9 of my podcast of "How The Hell You Do That". This one is with Richard Jordan, who is one of the most incredible performers in my haunted house. He teaches us how to scare people in a haunted house. It is not that amazing to be completely honest with you, I've done better. It is not so easy to teach people how to scare people in 4 minutes. You kind of just have to be one of those kind of people. Or deformed.